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AGAINST – Documents — National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Corporation; Order for the Production of Documents

Pauline Hanson

I move:

That there be laid on the table by the Minister representing the Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme, by no later than midday on Thursday, 22 June 2023:

(a) all grant agreements made with National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) funding or between the NDIS or the Department of Social Services and the National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Corporation (NATSIC), currently in administration with the firm known as Grant Thornton Australia; and

(b) any emails, documents or handwritten notes:

(i) relating to the decisions to enter into those grant agreements,

(ii) relating to fraud prevention or fraud identification during the grant agreements,

(iii) between the grantor and grantee,

(iv) between the Commonwealth and NATSIC,

(v) relating to any visit or meeting with the office bearers of NATSIC,

(vi) relating to any investigation by the Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporations or under the Corporations (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander) Act 2006,

(vii) relating to debts owed by NATSIC resulting from non-performance of the grant agreements,

(viii) relating to Mr Jim Golden-Brown or any aliases, including Jim Sturgeon or similar spelling,

(ix) relating to Graham Aitken,

(x) relating to Harry Harun,

(xi) made by Ryan Sandeman, Grant Schulz, Kirsty Goodwin or Dick Courtney,

(xii) relating to the public interest declaration made by Ms Goodwin in respect of Ryan Sandeman,

(xiii) relating to Michael Roddan's article published in the Australian Financial Review on or around 6 February 2023, and

(xiv) between the NDIS and the NATSIC Chairman, Ian Mye.

Dorinda Cox

I seek leave to make a short statement.

Andrew McLachlan

Leave is granted for one minute.

Dorinda Cox

Here we are once again with another racially charged and utterly pathetic motion on behalf of Senator Hanson about so-called Aboriginal people who are falsely claiming to be black. I thought we put this to bed earlier this week, but it seems that people in this place have seriously not got the message. So let me make this absolutely crystal clear. Our identity as First Peoples in this country is not up for debate. That is not up for debate, especially by non-indigenous people who are raising this issue in bad faith. The High Court settled this. We have a means already to assess it. Neither Senator Hanson nor anyone else—

Andrew McLachlan

Senator Scarr, on a point of order?

Paul Scarr

Deputy President, I understand Senator Cox is passionate about this issue, but she's impugning Senator Hanson's motives when she says this is being raised in bad faith.

Andrew McLachlan

I listened to the comment carefully and I don't think it reaches that imputation. Senator Cox, please finish up.

Dorinda Cox

Neither Senator Hanson nor anyone else in this place can tell First Peoples who, in fact, are or are not Indigenous and First Peoples of this country.

Andrew McLachlan

The question before the Senate is on item 252, standing in the name of Senator Hanson, in relation to an order for the production of documents.


Date and time: 3:58 PM on 2023-06-19
Senator Pocock's vote: No
Total number of "aye" votes: 30
Total number of "no" votes: 32
Total number of abstentions: 14

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